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tiamatlady) wrote2001-06-16 04:10 am
tiamatlady) wrote2001-06-16 04:10 am
Wow
Just wow.
I wasn't ever going to comment in my journal, but this is too much.
Ahem.
Hi.
I believe in being forewarned and forearmed.
So if you're going to be nice enough to post your innermost thoughts in a public forum, go right ahead, I feel no shame in reading them.
I edit myself seriously, but to be honest, not much isn't public knowledge about me, and what isn't is buried quite deep, and held with the trustworthy.
When you insult me and mine, and, despite claims to the contrary, have NOT discontinued doing it, do you really expect me to sit back and take it? (may I point out that this is the self same behavior you also follow? Were I to sit in my lj and rant and rage about one of yours, I'd hear about it.)
You have been unfriendly, unresponsive and well, downright snotty for many years.
In the day where I MIGHT have accepted a friendship, you made it impossible, and a rather nasty thought in of itself.
And the compulsive behavior, the posing and the threats.
Tell me where I'd want to have anything to do with you?
One of my faults is going by my gut instinct, something I've talked about on MANY occasions, and how it perhaps doesn't let me get to know someone before making a judgment call. And my gut tells me that you are untrustworthy, and well, dangerous to know.
Something else that's common knowledge - I'm not a liar, nor do I hide how I feel.
Shouldn't the other night prove that?
If I were to stalk, or threaten, or bitch at, it would be in my own name,
I don't have to hide behind any masks.
And I know what "they" say about you, too.
It ain't pretty.
*shrug* Whatever.
This will make no difference, except to make me feel better.
But, I fear I am a bit insulted, at being accused of stalking, and harassment, when my fondest wish would be *poof* you're gone. And considering how well known I am for declaring my opinion, loudly, and the most Inopportune times, it's actually laughable that I'm being told I'm sneaky, and harassing someone via anonymous e-mail.
I guess I have to apologize for being a bit intrigued at being called a "big fat cow" and accused of stalking months before any thing else, as they say, "went down"
I'm going to say this - Noone is stalking you. Noone really cares what you do. If you're going to publicly insult people and their friends, please be prepared for the consequences, up to and including the fact that the person mentioned MIGHT be told about it. I have mentioned to those involved, stuff I've noticed in Journal, but at best, sending the insulted a link, or mentioning it in a conversation. I do not post in other's LJ's without my name attached. I do not post in Journals of people whom don't know me, unless I am intrigued by a stranger's writing. It's asking for trouble, pretty much.
You're invited to read my journal, and see that I insult those I am publicly having a "hissie fit" with. I stand by everything I've said, and I stand by everything I've done. I've not had to take anything back, as long as I'm standing for what I believe in. Also, as I've done, you can log the IP addresses of anonymous postings. The IP address doesn't lie. And that can prove or disprove anything. Perhaps a gentle suggestion that you turn this feature on, if you're having problems. I did a while ago, just to prevent anything like this occurring.
I don't blame you for being angry, I can see how paranoia has set in. But, and this is just a thought, that if it's not me sending anonymous emails, or LJ posts, then who is it? And it isn't me, I have no use for anon postings when I have such a big mouth. Ask around. That one's a fact. It would be redundant, I wouldn't be able to resist bragging and that would totally defeat the purpose. (the big mouth is another fault, but one I accept and work on. The fact is, little secrets are not safe with me)
As for the insults, it's habit. And, as far as I'm concerned, the truth, as I see it.
I've accepted a lot of things about me, and I don't get up in the morning and call myself fat or ugly. Nor do I overcritize myself and my looks everytime I step out of the door. And if you want to sling about whichever insults, no problem, goddess knows I do it myself. I can't ask anyone to not do something I can't do. But, forgive me, but I can't run into a corner and cry when you do it. I'll just shake my head, Accept it, as it's what _I_ do, and say hi to my friend right behind the insult. I will be happy to say any of my previous words to your face. Whenever, wherever. But, don't mistake honor and respect for someone else, a friend and his house, the staff of a club, the authorities, where I will simply walk away from a confrontation, for fear, or cowardice. Something I've learned - never back down, but be willing to bend, for the right cause. Or risk breaking.
Maybe it is a bit of a double standard, but I will be judged on me, and if I'm a bitch, it's because I AM a bitch. But, as far as I can see, that's exactly the way it goes.
*shrug* Oh well. I intend to continue as before. I watch, I listen, I read. I don't see any reason to change. Things will always be the same. The faces change. Not much else does.
For anyone who is reading this who says "What the hell?!?" Don't worry. And I apologize, because I know I agreed with a bunch of you that this isn't the place for crap like this. My thanks for your patience. But, I feel that I should defend myself. That this just stepped over that big line.
Back to your regularly scheduled fluff.
I wasn't ever going to comment in my journal, but this is too much.
Ahem.
Hi.
I believe in being forewarned and forearmed.
So if you're going to be nice enough to post your innermost thoughts in a public forum, go right ahead, I feel no shame in reading them.
I edit myself seriously, but to be honest, not much isn't public knowledge about me, and what isn't is buried quite deep, and held with the trustworthy.
When you insult me and mine, and, despite claims to the contrary, have NOT discontinued doing it, do you really expect me to sit back and take it? (may I point out that this is the self same behavior you also follow? Were I to sit in my lj and rant and rage about one of yours, I'd hear about it.)
You have been unfriendly, unresponsive and well, downright snotty for many years.
In the day where I MIGHT have accepted a friendship, you made it impossible, and a rather nasty thought in of itself.
And the compulsive behavior, the posing and the threats.
Tell me where I'd want to have anything to do with you?
One of my faults is going by my gut instinct, something I've talked about on MANY occasions, and how it perhaps doesn't let me get to know someone before making a judgment call. And my gut tells me that you are untrustworthy, and well, dangerous to know.
Something else that's common knowledge - I'm not a liar, nor do I hide how I feel.
Shouldn't the other night prove that?
If I were to stalk, or threaten, or bitch at, it would be in my own name,
I don't have to hide behind any masks.
And I know what "they" say about you, too.
It ain't pretty.
*shrug* Whatever.
This will make no difference, except to make me feel better.
But, I fear I am a bit insulted, at being accused of stalking, and harassment, when my fondest wish would be *poof* you're gone. And considering how well known I am for declaring my opinion, loudly, and the most Inopportune times, it's actually laughable that I'm being told I'm sneaky, and harassing someone via anonymous e-mail.
I guess I have to apologize for being a bit intrigued at being called a "big fat cow" and accused of stalking months before any thing else, as they say, "went down"
I'm going to say this - Noone is stalking you. Noone really cares what you do. If you're going to publicly insult people and their friends, please be prepared for the consequences, up to and including the fact that the person mentioned MIGHT be told about it. I have mentioned to those involved, stuff I've noticed in Journal, but at best, sending the insulted a link, or mentioning it in a conversation. I do not post in other's LJ's without my name attached. I do not post in Journals of people whom don't know me, unless I am intrigued by a stranger's writing. It's asking for trouble, pretty much.
You're invited to read my journal, and see that I insult those I am publicly having a "hissie fit" with. I stand by everything I've said, and I stand by everything I've done. I've not had to take anything back, as long as I'm standing for what I believe in. Also, as I've done, you can log the IP addresses of anonymous postings. The IP address doesn't lie. And that can prove or disprove anything. Perhaps a gentle suggestion that you turn this feature on, if you're having problems. I did a while ago, just to prevent anything like this occurring.
I don't blame you for being angry, I can see how paranoia has set in. But, and this is just a thought, that if it's not me sending anonymous emails, or LJ posts, then who is it? And it isn't me, I have no use for anon postings when I have such a big mouth. Ask around. That one's a fact. It would be redundant, I wouldn't be able to resist bragging and that would totally defeat the purpose. (the big mouth is another fault, but one I accept and work on. The fact is, little secrets are not safe with me)
As for the insults, it's habit. And, as far as I'm concerned, the truth, as I see it.
I've accepted a lot of things about me, and I don't get up in the morning and call myself fat or ugly. Nor do I overcritize myself and my looks everytime I step out of the door. And if you want to sling about whichever insults, no problem, goddess knows I do it myself. I can't ask anyone to not do something I can't do. But, forgive me, but I can't run into a corner and cry when you do it. I'll just shake my head, Accept it, as it's what _I_ do, and say hi to my friend right behind the insult. I will be happy to say any of my previous words to your face. Whenever, wherever. But, don't mistake honor and respect for someone else, a friend and his house, the staff of a club, the authorities, where I will simply walk away from a confrontation, for fear, or cowardice. Something I've learned - never back down, but be willing to bend, for the right cause. Or risk breaking.
Maybe it is a bit of a double standard, but I will be judged on me, and if I'm a bitch, it's because I AM a bitch. But, as far as I can see, that's exactly the way it goes.
*shrug* Oh well. I intend to continue as before. I watch, I listen, I read. I don't see any reason to change. Things will always be the same. The faces change. Not much else does.
For anyone who is reading this who says "What the hell?!?" Don't worry. And I apologize, because I know I agreed with a bunch of you that this isn't the place for crap like this. My thanks for your patience. But, I feel that I should defend myself. That this just stepped over that big line.
Back to your regularly scheduled fluff.
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Please keep me and my name out of your fights.
This one died in me a long time ago.
I am not interested, nor do I understand why this one is even continuing. It is not worth everybody's energy. I heard enough said about me over the years to learn that words are meaningless, and only those who could come to me personally would get my ear.
I respect you and your rights when you claim friendship with one person who has said more trash about me than anyone else combined,
so respect me and do not put me into this one.
The roots of this fight were so long ago that I have long lost interest. i.e., I am well over it, and the people in question are only my enemies if they want to be. I am stronger than all of it, and thus do not hate "them". Things are different now. It is not worth anyone's energy, and only breeds more anger and hearsay.
Again, please leave my name out of all of this. There is no reason for grown adults to be getting all riled up about nothing, calling each other names, and no, I have nothing to say on the matter, haven't for a loooong time.
Thank you, see you tonight. Percy
Hrm
It will be the ONLY time I do so.
I'm only going to say that you have the same people in your life, people you have defended to me, whom I consider repulsive.
Your opinion and mine are going to differ.
Re: Hrm
The truly repulsive always reveal themselves in time, and need no help from me, you, or anyone.
When this occurs, if they prove to be unworthy,
I simply do not give them the time of day.
They cannot hurt me, they cannot hurt what they cannot touch. I am too busy living my life and following my dreams to care about any of these melodramas, and lost interest in the details long ago... it leads to nothing. Just leave me out of your fight if you must continue. It doesn't interest me, and I won't be drawn into it.
I am a friend, I like you, but I do not obey anyone's ultimatums. I follow my own rules.
no subject
Might I ask that we all leave friends out of it as well?It's not fair to them.
This back & forth is going to stop now. I know others already have. You have been asked by them to stop as well. Perhaps you should take their advice.
If you would like to have a discussion about this in person we both will be at Manray the Wednesday after the Ohgr show. We can have a frank un-fired conversation, where we will hear each other out, and come out civil at least. If that forum is unsuitable, name the place. We can go for a drink, or go to neutral ground.
I hope this petty internet bunk ends now.
I leave it up to you.
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I believe I, and you, have heard quite enough.
I have no defense of anything, other than it is my feelings and opinions. As you have yours, as well.
I don't forsee anything more than hurt feelings, and more attitude if this were "discussed" because I know how _my_ discussions go. And I'd like my attitude to remain as an adult about...well whatever "this" is, I'm stumped as what to say.